Now you can watch the Internet Archive preserve documents in real time

neom · 2025-05-23T15:56:27 1748015787

Direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPg2V5RVh7U

ignoramous · 2025-05-25T16:15:53 1748189753

I am part of an informal group involved in actively archiving websites, and the ones behind Cloudflare Captchas are barely archive-able. I presumed Cloudflare had a deal with Archive.org but I guess it went no where? https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflares-always-online-and-th...

sadeshmukh · 2025-05-25T17:05:36 1748192736

It's still a setting in their dashboard, but the site owner has to manually enable Always Online.

mellosouls · 2025-05-25T22:46:33 1748213193

Plenty of other archives around the world; one would hope any impediments to them doing their job due to Cloudflare would have a more general solution than a single partner.

charcircuit · 2025-05-25T16:45:12 1748191512

Are you using ios or macos to have access to private access tokens?

https://blog.cloudflare.com/eliminating-captchas-on-iphones-...

qingcharles · 2025-05-25T17:53:08 1748195588

This looks like a useful solution for scraping. It doesn't prove you're a human, simply that you can afford to buy an iPhone. So buy the cheapest iPhone that supports this on eBay and then use that for scraping and archiving from now on.

lxgr · 2025-05-25T16:58:30 1748192310

Given that these tokens are intentionally designed to distinguish human from bot traffic, I'd be surprised if they were (easily) available to archival tooling.

charcircuit · 2025-05-25T17:32:12 1748194332

The URLSession API supports private access tokens (it's handled for you automatically) while your app is foregrounded.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/foundation/urlsess...

lxgr · 2025-05-25T17:53:54 1748195634

Oh, interesting! But I'd still expect these to be heavily rate limited etc. – otherwise, the people captcha-protected sites are hoping to keep out could just use these, right?

charcircuit · 2025-05-25T17:58:57 1748195937

At what rate are archivers solving Cloudflare challenges though? Probably not enough to hit any kind of rate limit. This is only used for the initial challenge and not for every request.

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