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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44087608

这篇 Hacker News 帖子讨论了一则关于《Byte》杂志 1978 年(原文有误,应为1979年或更早,此处按原文内容翻译)44 期(原文有误,应为更早的一期)的视频,重点关注其在互联网时代之前的影響。用户们回忆起当时是如何急切地等待每一期的发行,并强调它在传播关于 Prolog 和 Smalltalk 等新兴技术信息方面的作用。 一些评论提到了 1981 年 8 月的那期《Byte》杂志,这期杂志恰逢 IBM PC 发布,并展示了诸如鼠标、重叠窗口和剪切/复制/粘贴等先进概念,尽管当时的 IBM PC 并不具备这些功能。这表明《Byte》让公众能够展望超越现有技术的计算能力,也让他们了解了鼠标等概念,尽管鼠标当时已经存在一段时间了。 一位用户表达了对面向对象编程演变的失望之情,认为它变得过于复杂。另一位用户回忆起与 Smalltalk 的负面经历,并提到了可扩展性问题。然而,其他人对它保留着美好的回忆。总的来说,这篇帖子强调了《Byte》杂志作为在信息远不如现在 readily available 的时代至关重要的易于获取的技术知识来源的重要性。

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    Byte was a magazine I always looked forward to receiving as it had a great connection via the writers to what was happening in the computer and software world.


    I remember biking to the library to read it every time it came out


    Ha! Same.


    It's a real shame that Object Oriented programming got perverted into a boatload of boilerplate, as evidenced in C++, Java, etc.

    I was all on board with it in Borland Pascal for Windows, and Delphi, but when I looked at C++, I got off that train. You can always take a good idea, and go too far with it... I never did understand the whole Factories for classes thing.



    I tried to watch the first bit of the video, but I'm still trying to figure what exactly did it change?


    There was no internet, so unless you were connected to educational organization and their curriculum, there was no way to get information of various topics in somewhat palatable way. BYTE changed all that, and suddenly everybody could learn all about Prolog and Smalltalk and other Scheiße.


    Ah okay, yeah fair enough. I thought the guy was talking about the specific magazine issue of Smalltalk.


    He was: he pointed out that the world of computing he (we) knew back then is illustrated in all the ads. Note that August 1981 is also the month the original IBM PC came out. In contrast the articles showed a world of computing with mice, overlapping windows, menus, cut/copy/paste.

    A comment in the video pointed out that the mouse had been invented back in 1964 and claiming it was not common is a cop out. The author of the video didn't know about it before this issue and I didn't know about it. But now we knew, and for how many others was this true?



    "Scheiße"


    Bad memories of Smalltalk. Current implementation did not scale up.


    Good memories of Smalltalk. (Was it Smalltalk or was it me?)

    > Current implementation did not scale up.

    Did the prototype suggest it would?



    I was not in that project, but I heard it just suddenly choked up, just when the model was becoming useful.

    There was no mention in the box that there was a limit. It was the fancy version with EMS-support, so it was not a hardware problem.







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