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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43950770

Hacker News上的一篇讨论帖围绕着AI对就业的影响展开,起因是一篇关于AI就业危机的文章。 首位评论者认为AI将赋能创意工作者并提高生产力,但其他人担心AI会取代人类劳动者,导致创意产出质量下降和广泛失业。一些人认为AI生成的内容已经很平庸,人们正在被训练去接受这种平庸。 反驳观点认为,AI会创造出专注于管理和改进AI系统的新工作,从而导致一场“自动化竞赛”,拥有更多自动化任务所需人才的公司将蓬勃发展。一些人对AI处理重复性任务、让人类从事更具创造性工作的未来持乐观态度。 然而,其他人则担心AI有可能完全消除许多任务中对人工干预的需求。讨论还涉及到AI生成的虚假信息可能会破坏互联网作为可靠信息来源的潜力。一些人看到了希望的曙光,他们希望互联网的衰落会导致人际关系和当地社区的复兴。

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    I think it’s more like AI empowers and 3x’s the creatives that learn to use it. In all fields where highly intelligent auto-complete is useful it replaces 2/3rds of who you need to hire. The key is to learn to use the tools. As it has always been with new tools like computers etc.


    It's not just a new tool. It replaces the person using the tool, and we're all being conditioned into believing whatever AI churns out, which will never be anything more than average, is good enough.


    Totally!

    That’s why those “creatives” who used llms to write their movie won 3x as many Oscars, and the ones who used them to write their tv show won 3x as many Emmys, and the ones who used them to write their music won 3x as many Grammys!



    No one owes anyone a job. Systems like that have been tried and they don’t work.

    This is going to be a bumpy transition but at the other end the jobs that survive will be creative and fulfilling - for example, people automating work, every day, so (barring corner cases) no one has to do that task again.

    Putting AI in and letting it do a bad job is a great way for AI to be in there eventually doing a good job. Humans may not be needed to do the work but they will be needed to tend to the systems and automations driving the AI - and/or to the agents driving the AI. They’ll be needed to improve what the AI is doing, handle corner cases, and add new use cases. And they’ll fill in the gaps - until those can be automated too.

    Once everyone’s doing that, it’ll be an automation race. The more humans a company has the more capability it will have to automate more work. Then we’ll be back to full steam hiring, but the skill sets will be very different. At places like Duolingo, job titles like “AI automation specialist” will replace “translator”.

    It’s going to be okay, we will get through this!



    While I mostly agree with you, I also believe there is no guarantee that a human will always be needed to tend the AI. Your argument assumes an arbitrary capability level for the AI, one that is comfortable for the human. It's quite possible also that humans won't be needed at all for many, if not most, tasks.


    Perhaps, but if we wont let people kill themsleves, we do at least owe them a livable income.


    Perhaps - but this “we” you speak of has to be better defined before others can agree or disagree with you.


    One might imagine that the layoff-based business model for AI could eventually backfire once people discover how bad the output is, but the incentives seem aligned for a society with heaps of low-quality, AI-generated garbage and a major unemployment/underemployment.


    With the current speed of AI progress. We are probably 1 or 2 years away from any generic AI being able to teach languages better than Duolingo.


    From the state of Duolingo, I think we've already passed that point by a bit. And I'm not even a huge AI-replacement-alarmist. It's more that Duolingo is not optimal (or even good/great) at teaching language. I will give it its due, it does help with vocabulary memorization.


    I wonder what happens when the AI starts to hallucinate? https://www.sify.com/ai-analytics/the-hilarious-and-horrifyi...


    According to the article, pathology and double entendres are now ungated on Duolingo.


    Any time I see AI "art" I assume the worst: https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthet...


    Art? A friend of 40 years asked me if my beautiful sunset photo was real. I sent lens data and the image was EXIF tagged.

    Nothing is real anymore?

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43942930#43943277



    The one bright spot I see is that the internet as a source of information is soon over.

    In the 90s, the internet promised a utopia connecting people across the globe instantly where censorship was damage to be routed around, and information was free.

    In 2025, the internet is a dystopia of misinformation, making everyone dumber and easier to manipulate. Oligarchs own all the platforms and nobody even cares.

    The faster that AI ruins it the better. We go back to creating personal connections, building local communities. Happier people making impact in each others lives for real.



    That makes no sense. Niche topics require global connections. There just aren't enough locals for niche topics.

    Also, one can't really build something that lasts without knowing the whole truth about it. The internet still is the best place to discover the truth, although it takes some effort and corroboration.



    The nice thing about being old is that I lived in a world before the internet. We did fine.

    I feel bad for people who grew up “digitally native” and seem shocked at the concept and can’t even comprehend living without being online 24x7







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