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一位麻省理工学院(电子工程与计算机科学系)的毕业生面临毕业却找不到工作的情况,很多同学也面临同样的困境,这导致了士气低落和对回到不稳定家庭的恐惧。他们寻求那些有过类似经历的人的建议。 评论者建议积极与校友、教授和职业服务部门建立联系,强调超越简历投递的关系构建,尤其是在人工智能驱动的招聘环境中。建议将目标锁定在那些大型公司忽视的小型本地公司,并考虑任何可用的工作以获得经验和人脉。保持积极的态度并专注于可控因素至关重要。 一些人建议不要立即接受低于自己能力水平的工作,理由是研究表明长期工资停滞不前。另一些人建议接受任何可用的工作,即使不在科技行业,同时继续寻找。利用家庭关系、考虑自由职业以建立简历、扩大求职地点范围以及探索辅助职位(如质量保证或支持工程)也被建议。一些人直接提供求职帮助或鼓励创业。

一位麻省理工学院(电子工程与计算机科学系)的毕业生面临毕业却找不到工作的情况,很多同学也面临同样的困境,这导致了士气低落和对回到不稳定家庭的恐惧。他们寻求那些有过类似经历的人的建议。 评论者建议积极与校友、教授和职业服务部门建立联系,强调超越简历投递的关系构建,尤其是在人工智能驱动的招聘环境中。建议将目标锁定在那些大型公司忽视的小型本地公司,并考虑任何可用的工作以获得经验和人脉。保持积极的态度并专注于可控因素至关重要。 一些人建议不要立即接受低于自己能力水平的工作,理由是研究表明长期工资停滞不前。另一些人建议接受任何可用的工作,即使不在科技行业,同时继续寻找。利用家庭关系、考虑自由职业以建立简历、扩大求职地点范围以及探索辅助职位(如质量保证或支持工程)也被建议。一些人直接提供求职帮助或鼓励创业。
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    Ask HN: I'm an MIT senior and still unemployed – and so are most of my friends
    52 points by MITthrow123 1 hour ago | hide | past | favorite | 34 comments
    I'm a senior at MIT studying Course 6 (EECS), and I'm graduating soon with no job lined up. I've applied to tons of places, done interviews, built side projects, but nothing has landed—and it's not just me. A lot of my classmates, some of the smartest and hardest-working people I know, are also unemployed or under incredible stress trying to figure things out.

    It's honestly demoralizing. I came to MIT hoping to build a better life—not just for myself, but for my family. Now I’m facing the very real possibility of moving back home to an unstable and abusive environment while continuing to job hunt. The thought alone is crushing. I’ve even considered staying for an MEng just to avoid going home, but I’m completely burnt out and have no thesis direction. MIT gave me freedom, food security, friends, a bed of my own for the first time. It changed everything. But now that graduation’s here, it feels like it’s all slipping away.

    If you've been through something similar—late job search success, unexpected turns that worked out, or just any advice—I’d really appreciate it. What helped you push through when it felt like the system failed you?

    Thanks for reading.











    It's hard to face this when fresh out of school, but one piece of advice I can offer is to network as much as you can. Talk to folks you know that graduated before you and have a job. Talk to professors who might have industry ties in their history. Talk to folks in the career center. Try to be as visible as you can. Yes, I know that seems trivial considering you don't have job experience, but even building relationships at school can pay off.

    Those types of connections are CRITICAL in the age of scorched-earth AI centric hiring. I spent 9 months recently jobless after getting laid off, and its damned near impossible to get a job through the usual resume farm (LinkedIn job board and the like).

    Also, look for jobs local to wherever you are that don't look all that glamorous. RTO is a big thing now, and smaller organizations struggle to hire locally without the brand recognition of the big guys. That might be your in for your first job.

    And the biggest thing, keep your head up. Keep pushing. You just got a degree from an extremely difficult program, and you can hang your hat on that. The factors affecting the job market are not within your control, and your skills will outlast them.



    Truly sorry you feel this way. For what it’s worth, this was common for people graduating into the 2008 financial crisis, too. It’s actually unusual that we went for so long without another period of contraction.

    From last time around: The people who kept pushing and took any job, anywhere turned out okay. This translated to a lot of people taking jobs below what they expected to get or having to move when they didn’t want to, but it was ultimately temporary.

    The people I knew who turned cynical, let negativity take the wheel, and checked out of the job market struggled much harder to get back in.

    You’re early in your career. This current period of turmoil doesn’t mean that much, even though it feels like everything right now. Keep at it, work a little harder than your competition, and put a little more care into your applications and it will work out. Stay away from the doom spirals on Reddit or Blind. Uninstall those apps (and others) if they’re making you worse.



    > From last time around: The people who kept pushing and took any job, anywhere turned out okay. This translated to a lot of people taking jobs below what they expected to get or having to move when they didn’t want to, but it was ultimately temporary.

    I'm going to challenge this as you didn't give specific data to back it up. I read an article recently that did have data, and it made the argument that first jobs, and first salaries, tend to be remarkably "sticky". That is, if you are desperate for a job out of college so take one that causes you to be underemployed and underpaid, that doesn't just stick with you for your first job, but data showed that people were underemployed and underpaid for at least a decade after college.

    The advice in this article was to hold out as long as possible for a desirable job, which meant a ton of networking, taking internships if possible, and also possibly additional schooling.

    Apologies for not having the article on hand, but here's another one I found in 30 seconds of googling that makes the same argument, with research:

    https://www.highereddive.com/news/half-of-graduates-end-up-u...



    Indeed. I found myself unemployed and having a very hard time finding work after the '08 crash. My newly minted degree turned out to be worthless in that environment. It worked out for the best as I took a low paying job as a technician that at least let me make enough money to pay the rent and buy food while I continued building up skills. It's a raw deal and it's not fair, but the only thing you can control is yourself. Try to keep a positive attitude and understand that it won't be this way forever.


    +1 to this. If I go look at social media the job market is ending. But if I look at the signals around me there's plenty of opportunities.

    Also consider taking something below (or even much below) expectations. It's much easier to work your way up with connections than it is to get in the door with no references.



    > You’re early in your career. This current period of turmoil doesn’t mean that much

    Is that true? I seem to remember data showing that the 2008-2010 graduate cohorts never overall caught up to the ones that came immediately before or after them.

    Like sure sure OP has an engineering degree from MIT they're more like the ones that did catch up. But I'll bet there are a lot more people reading this who are about to graduate with degrees from perfectly adequate state schools and I'm not sure this unalloyed optimism is exactly correct for them. I don't think it turned out to be for their 2008 predecessors.



    It doesn’t mean much in the course of an entire career.

    Comparing to other cohorts isn’t useful because you can’t pick your cohort. You are born into one timeline and you play the hand you’re dealt.

    There’s a lot of research that people who graduate into bad job markets are more cautious and less risk taking which can make them look like they’re behind peers who are more risk hungry when the market is up. I wouldn’t be surprised if it also makes them come out ahead in periods where the market is down.



    Also keep talking to people, since you never know when and where opportunities will come from.

    This environment reminds me of the one I faced graduating into the 2001-2003 post-Dotcom Bust market.



    The advice I give to students is to leverage connections, especially family connections, as much as possible. Take any job you that have a family connection to, even if it isn't in tech.

    Learn the business as well as you can and then apply your technical knowledge to it.



    Service industry (waiting tables is my go to) doesn't pay well but it does pay...

    I worked at Stinkies Fish Camp as a dishwasher fwiw after my 6 years as a Cyber Threat Operator in the AF (2012 government sequestration did wonders to clearance renewals). It sucked, but I lived. Well, survived.

    Best of luck, always keep a candle of hope to a wildcard interview!



    This is indeed a very rough time to be graduating. You're unfortunately getting screwed. It happened to me too in '08/'09, so I know very well how shitty it can feel. Try to be stoic about it though and just worry about the things you can actually change, not what you can't change.

    Here's my advice and what I would do in that situation again, though you should definitely adjust/adapt to your strengths/goals:

    1. Don't "spray and pray" your resume out there (at least, don't do that to jobs you actually want). When jobs get tight it feels natural to want to spread your (resume) seed as widely as possible hoping one will germinate, but realistically that doesn't work. Instead I would find job postings that you want, and make yourself spend 20 to 30 minutes tailoring the resume for the job. Don't lie or even exaggerate, but don't include irrelevant information and definitely don't omit anything relevant. If it's something you have and it's mentioned in the job post, it should be on your resume, unless you don't think you could speak intelligently on the subject. For example I put in a job posting I needed someone with bash experience, then interviewed somebody who put bash on their resume, but when I asked about it they hadn't done much more than just run simple commands. They didn't even know how to set a variable in bash. They did not get an offer.

    2. Be willing to take something in QA or another adjacent area even if you feel it is beneath you (especially being from MIT. You went to a phenomenal school and deserve to be proud, but don't let that turn into counterproductive pride). Even the best school only partially prepares you for the workforce, and you can learn a ton even slinging test code. (to be honest, my time working in QA was one of the most enjoyable because I didn't have to deal with Product :-D)

    3. Take a look for Professional Services and/or Support Engineer roles that involve some coding. This can be a great way to get your foot in the door and pivot to a full SWE role 6 to 12 months down the line. You can also get some incredibly useful experience in these because you'll work will real customers/users and will learn a ton about product, bug hunting, and building clever solutions to solve real problems.

    4. (this one can be a bit controversial but it's my opinion): Don't just look at local options. Moving sucks, but there are lots of great jobs in areas with rapid growth that will even sometimes pay for your move. I would definitely look in areas like Texas, Utah, and Colorado



    To me, it sounds like you need professional experience on your resume so that should be your goal. However, professional experience != a full time software engineer role. Can you find something really small that pays from a freelance site? Maybe it's just a python script that takes 4 hours and pays $10 - but with that you are a professional software engineer. Do you anyone who owns a website for a business? Ask them if you can do some really basic work for $1 - because if you do that, you're a professional software engineer.

    Once you have some professional experience on your resume, it should get a little easier - it's still going to take some time and grit, but it should work out.



    Is there no pipeline--or a job fair? A way to get a moment with prospective employers? It seems tragically stupid if MIT offers no such thing. Applying into the void seems like a fool's errand.


    Many student loans can be put on basically indefinite hold via income based repayment (if you make little enough, your minimum payment is zero, but the interest keeps accruing). This gives you some flexibility to take any job you can find, even something that doesn't require a degree.

    You might also look into trades, depending on your engineering specialty. A machinist with a MechEng degree from MIT or a millwright with something related to manufacturing will be extremely valuable, especially if you're willing to move where the work is.



    https://www.reddit.com/r/hiringcafe | https://hiring.cafe/ (not mine, but I've chatted with folks its worked for)

    Know when to rest, not to quit. Take whatever job you can now while continuing to look for your next role.

    > What helped you push through when it felt like the system failed you?

    Grit and nihilism. No one is coming to save us.



    > Take whatever job you can now while continuing to look for your next role.

    This. And by any job I mean any job. McDonalds, book store, what have you. A good friend of mine dropped out of Harvard sophomore year. She found work at the COOP, then CVS, etc. It was definitely better than going back to an unstable and abusive environment while continuing to job hunt.



    Become a founder. It's the easiest way to make something people want and get paid a moderately decent salary while you're doing it!


    Can you go to grad school while figuring things out?


    You are one of the best in history prepared to do your job, with current knowledge etc. and best university in the world, get your colleagues and start a company. You don't need a jerk who barely passed a college to tell you what to do.


    Don't be afraid to:

    - Hit up alumni on LinkedIn, even though you've never met them before.

    - Cold-call companies.

    But at the very least be genuine, and look up what the companies and people do.



    I graduated in June 2009 from a UC just after the crash. It took me until September 2010 to find a job in the field I wanted and get my career going. I got super lucky and found that job off a Craigslist ad. Just remember the system isn't set up to support you, so you are going to have to be proactive, creative, try and network and be uncomfortable asking for what you want until you get it. These are core life skills. Grit 'n' Grind.


    These days, applying through job portals is a losing strategy. People are overwhelmed with perfect-on-paper AI-generated applications.

    Email people directly. DM them on Twitter/LinkedIn. Meet people in person.



    It was like this when I, and my friends graduated. This too will pass. Do not let it discourage you and take away everything you've worked so hard to achieve. You will triumph anyway. It's not easy to get into, let alone graduate from a school like MiT. God speed my friend.


    If you can get support, staying for a graduate degree is a time honored way of riding things out when you graduate into a recession. And if the stock charts are an indication, industry is bracing for the mother of all recessions.


    Is it location based? All the engineering students at the local university by me aren't seeming to have problems.

    https://msoe.s3.amazonaws.com/files/resources/2025-career-co...



    Decide where you WANT to be (like, literally, location).

    Plan to move there and get any job.

    Don't be ashamed to apply for any and all government assistance you might be able to find.



    Broaden your search. Apply to startups, for less money / more equity - there are plenty of them in the Boston area. Basically just do a sober assessment of how much you need to live on (perhaps with a roommate), add 30% to that and that's your minimal acceptable cash-side compensation. Do that for some time (a year or more), learn, move on. While you work, set aside some money for the rainy day. This is not optional, you have to do it even if you don't set aside a ton. Fundamentally, you have to stand out and you have to start building a track record. How much money you make in your first job is not very important. I'd say what you _do_ in your first job is more important. That's what people see in the resume. Good luck, and remember - you've got the very best education available. Do not sell yourself short in job 2 and so on.


    To OP, sorry you're experiencing this. If you want 1:1 help debugging your job search, feel welcome to email me directly (contact in HN bio). I probably won't be able to get to it until this weekend, but I will try to help if I can.


    Welcome to the machine. What sort of jobs are you applying for? If you haven't worked in your field at all yet, keep your sights low and apply for entry level positions or internships. IME there can be a large gap between what formal education provides and actually producing work. Also, soft skills are very important and often overlooked.

    I've interviewed some PhD students that we deep in their field, but they had zero work experience. That, combined with the fact that they were applying to a non-entry level position, meant that I'd be taking a large-ish risk in my position if I were to hire them.



    Look for marketing jobs, technical marketing, marketing on social media. People are hooked to youtube, tiktok, instagram.

    That being said, the whole tariff situation is creating a dark cloud over all jobs



    Consider tapping into the alumni network - I can help with more guidance on this front. Drop me an email.


    Talk to peers, friends, even people you do not know that well and ask about their plans. Don't be afraid to ask for help. Crash on a couch for a few months. Keep refining and sending out resumes. Take a job that you might be overqualified for. Early in your career you should accept and work for entry level positions and anticipate that you will be doing this same thing every 2-4 years in order to get to a salary range you are hoping for anyway.

    Don't expect or even look for a dream job straight away. Lower your standards. That's what I did, and I ended up where I'm supposed to be in my career after a few years. I took an early risk on a personally important project early in my career and found myself broke and headed home afterward. I just committed myself to taking entry level work and moving jobs several times in order to catch up with my peers who went straight into industry.



    > I've applied to tons of places

    What kind of places are you applying? FANG? Startups? Something else?



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