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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44040006

Hacker News上关于Output的讨论总结如下: 公司Output发布了一款AI代理,旨在通过自然语言命令控制电脑,自动化填写表格、编辑视频和安排电话等任务,兼容Mac和Windows操作系统。 用户在Hacker News上表达了对信任、隐私和速度的担忧。Output团队回应称,他们致力于透明度、用户控制和安全性,并计划增加本地模式以满足那些希望完全控制的用户需求。他们解释说,这款AI使用了经过微调的开源视觉语言模型,用于代理行为,但目前并非完全开源。速度和隐私方面存在一些限制,公司仍在努力改进。


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Show HN: Output – An AI Agent That Controls Your Computer (Mac and Windows) (theoutput.co)
15 points by sudhar172 1 day ago | hide | past | favorite | 14 comments
Hey HN,

After months of building, we're excited to share Output — the first AI agent that can truly control your computer.

You can speak or type instructions like:

“Fill out this job application using the info in this PDF” “Edit this video in DaVinci Resolve” “Schedule a Zoom call and send the invite”

Output understands your intent and directly clicks, types, and navigates apps across your system — without relying on scripts, plugins, or integrations. It's like giving your computer a brain.

Works on both Mac and Windows

No setup or scripting required

Handles real apps like Chrome, Excel, Notion, Zoom, etc.

Designed for general-purpose use — students, founders, creatives, you name it

We're still early and improving every day, but we'd love your feedback. Live demo + early access: https://theoutput.co/ You can follow us on X: https://x.com/theoutputai

Happy to answer any questions and go deep on how it works!











“It’s like giving your computer a brain”

Agree with the sentiment but trust in software is at an all time low and you have to work against that.

An example success is the developer of Superwhisper. Crazily responsive online, always polite, explains features with blog posts and videos, has a fan base of creators on youtube who fill in gaps in the docs and talk about creative & cool uses for the tool, and where possible the software provides local only ways to get work done.

If going closed source (which is fine) you could completely copy their strategy.



You're right, trust is the hardest part, especially with software that can control your computer. We're focused on giving users transparency, control, and a clear view of what the agent is doing. Local mode and permission controls are on our roadmap. Really appreciate you highlighting this.


How can I trust something like this?


That's a very reasonable concern. Trust has to be earned, especially with software that can take actions on your behalf.

We’re starting with clear boundaries — no hidden actions, full visibility into what the agent is doing, and confirmations for anything sensitive. A local-only mode is in development for users who want full control.

This kind of tool only works if people feel safe using it, so building that trust is a core part of what we’re focused on, not just a nice-to-have.



According to the video examples it's very slow.

Where can I look at the privacy policy?



We’ve already optimized it for speed — most actions complete in 1 to 2 seconds in real usage

We’re still finalizing the privacy policy and will share it publicly soon. For now, no data is stored long-term, and we’re exploring both cloud and local processing options with user control in mind.



Which seems slow, and you'd also need to add the time it takes to write the prompt.


Is this a proprietary model?


We use an open-source vision-language model as the base and fine-tune it heavily for agent behavior. The intelligence is in how it reasons, acts, and adapts — not just in the raw model.


Cool! Thanks for the reply. I’ll try to keep an eye on this. Mind if I ask what open source base model is?


I'm having trouble finding the source code.


We’re not open source yet, which is why the code isn’t available right now. We’re focused on getting the core product stable and secure first, but we’re definitely open to sharing parts of the stack over time.


So we can tell robot to obey us? What if they really have a brain ?


That is the goal. We want to build something that truly understands and can take initiative. But we are designing it with strong guardrails, clear permissions, and full user control from the start. Intelligence without boundaries is neither useful nor safe.






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