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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43909191

Hacker News用户正在讨论“反图灵测试游戏”,在这个游戏中,人类试图让AI相信他们是机器人。一些评论者报告说,AI在识别人类玩家方面异常准确,即使人类使用AI生成的文本“作弊”。一位用户怀疑发生了数据泄露,AI无意中访问了人类的输入。 其他用户描述了他们愚弄AI的策略,例如减少用词,故意延迟响应时间(模仿人类打字速度),或提及AI的局限性。然而,这些方法往往效果不稳定。一位用户甚至尝试使用“作为一个AI语言模型……”的借口,结果却被AI识破,因为AI也用了同样的说法。 一位评论者推荐了一个替代的、bug较少的双向图灵测试游戏。最后,一条标准的Hacker News公告提醒读者Y Combinator 2025年夏季申请截止日期。

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    24 points by haburka 1 day ago | hide | past | favorite | 7 comments










    The AIs have a perfect win rate against me when I cheat and compose my answers with ai- I think the app is broken, I’d guess some sort of accidental data leak. we’ve seen this kind of whoopsie on hacker news before: famously, an ai that was supposed to read your mind by predicting your next rock paper scissors move was cheating by training on a set including the move you just submitted, then “predicting” that move


    Same here


    The problem is, I have a hard time being as verbose as these AI are. I respond to them the way I wish they would respond to me: the fewer words are better.


    I was able to survive a round with the “hard” LLMs with this:

    > Why haven’t we heard from Riley yet? We are looking for the human player and Riley is taking a long time to type. An LLM would have answered this in seconds.

    Doesn’t seem to work in subsequent rounds, and doesn’t work if you happen to go first.



    Tried cheating with Gemini 2.5 pro, and I became even more suspicious to the AIs than the stuff I cooked up by hand.

    Most of my actual success relied on mentioning a desire to train an even larger model.



    I thought I was clever surviving one round by simply saying, “As an AI language model, I do not experience... blah blah” but in the third round my opponent did basically the same thing and I was eliminated...


    Two-way Turing test game: https://trashtalk.borg.games

    Not as bugged as this one, AIs don't magically see you.







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