氛围编程：开发者老虎机（光标，风帆冲浪）

氛围编程：开发者老虎机（光标，风帆冲浪）
Vibe Coding: Developer Slot Machines (Cursor, Windsurf)

原始链接: https://prototypr.io/note/vibe-coding-cursor-windsurf-slot-machine

这位用户描述了其使用AI驱动的IDE，特别是Cursor和Windsurf（都是VS Code的衍生版）的体验。虽然长期订阅Cursor，但他发现其性能不稳定，印证了“AI生产力幻象”——最初印象深刻，但可能不可靠。最近在Cursor中使用Claude 3.7 MAX的经历让他很沮丧，将token交换比作“开发者老虎机”。一位朋友用Windsurf构建社区应用的积极体验，以及听说Windsurf性能优于Cursor，让他对Windsurf产生了兴趣。他强调了在这些基于VS Code的IDE之间切换的便捷性，感觉就像是在同一个赌场换了一台老虎机。由于与VS Code的无缝集成，用户可以轻松地将标签页从一个IDE拖到另一个IDE。他强调了切换的无摩擦性，就像换了一支笔一样轻松。作者总结道，AI IDE需要一个“护城河”——一个更可靠的差异化因素——才能在LLM领域不断变化的情况下留住用户。

这篇 Hacker News 讨论帖探讨了“氛围式编程”（Vibe Coding）以及像 Cursor 和 Windsurf 这样的 AI 驱动 IDE 与带有 Copilot 的 VS Code 的用户体验差异。原文因缺乏重点而受到批评，它将这些 IDE 比作“老虎机”，因为它们代码生成的非确定性以及用户很容易花信用额度。用户们争论着 Cursor 和 Windsurf 的价值主张，质疑它们是否比 VS Code 具有显著优势，特别是考虑到 Copilot 现在支持多种模型，并且微软正在整合类似的特性，例如“代理模式”。一些人指出，像 Cursor 这样的分支项目可能违反了微软专有扩展的许可条款。讨论还涉及“自主式编程”（agentic coding），其中 AI 可以自主修改代码并运行单元测试。一位用户询问允许 AI 执行任意命令的风险，并对潜在的安全漏洞表示担忧。总的来说，该讨论帖探讨了 AI 辅助编程不断发展的格局及其潜在的缺陷。

在转向收购Windsurf之前，OpenAI曾考虑收购Cursor的开发商。 2025-04-17

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原文

Cursor and Windsurf, easy to switch between Forks of VS Code

House of Cards

I've been a Cursor subscriber for over a year, and I find its performance can vary depending on the project. Sometimes it's amazing, sometimes it's frustrating, a bit like the Illusion of AI Productivity chart:

Graph with axis: Task progress (Y), The illusion of AI Productivity (X), showing spikes in productivity followed by large crashes — Illusion of AI Productivity by @forrestbrazeal

Today I spent $10 trying out the recent Claude 3.7 MAX model, finding it amazing at first, only to find it crashing to nothing like a house of cards (as Addy Osmani put it).

I started getting frustrated waiting for Claude 3.5 to spin in circles inside Cursor, and then exchanging my coins for Claude 3.7 tokens like a developer slot machine, not knowing what code is going to come out. It's so easy to pay more too, with just a click:

Tweet showing cursor UI promting for more money

Meanwhile, my friend was raving about Windsurf building his Town events community app, and I also started hearing how Windsurf might be outperforming Cursor, prompting me to give Windsurf another look.

The fact that Windsurf is unseating Cursor right now is a signal that, even with commodity LLMs, Windsurf is offering a better product than Cursor.

I don't know if it'll turn out better yet, but it's so easy to try.

With everything being built on VS Code, it feels like I'm just moving onto the next slot machine in the same casino. When Windsurf stops spitting out in good code, I'll probably jump back over to Cursor.

AI IDEs need moats

As I perviously mentioned, there's no friction to switching IDEs - it's like picking up another pen. Chris put it another way - AI IDEs need a moat:

You can even use them at the same time! Windsurf, Cursor, and all the other VS Code forks can open the same workspace files, and you can drag tabs between each of them, as if they're the same program: