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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43744980

《纽约时报》一篇文章报道了Lyft和Uber等平台注销的送货司机面临的经济困境。据报道,一名司机因客户投诉其开车时使用手机而被注销,一些人认为这种情况让公司进退两难——要么因忽视安全问题而面临批评,要么因可能站不住脚的证据而注销司机。 Hacker News上的评论员批评《纽约时报》的煽动性报道,并质疑零工经济的公平性,因为司机缺乏传统员工的保障。一些人认为司机知道自己在做什么,另一些人则指出缺乏替代方案以及权力失衡的问题。一位评论员指出,Uber只在《纽约时报》询问后才重新激活因欺诈而被标记的司机。其他人则对将就业与服务条款违规行为联系起来的后果表示担忧。


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They Were Deactivated from Delivering. Their Finances Were Devastated. (nytimes.com)
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- "According to Ms. Campbell, a representative called her and said that a customer reported she was driving while using her phone but did not say when or how exactly she was using it."

If Lyft had waived this complaint and continued contracting out this driver, the New York Times could just as well write an identically inflammatory piece, about how Lyft were endangering customers' lives. How they—I'm sure they'd write—knew about, and shockingly ignored, reports that their contractors were committing crimes and violating traffic safety laws. How they willfully and recklessly employed substandard contractors out of greed for more profit.

I'm not saying I prefer one narrative or the other; I reject the entire premise of this style of writing. I despise the New York Times. I can't stand the one-sided, outrage-oriented story writing this OP exemplifies, where there's only correct answer, and you're being railroaded into it and you should follow your emotions and cortisol explosions. I don't think they even belong on HN when they write like this—it's the opposite of curiosity-oriented writing.



Normally this would have been being laid off or fired, and you'd get unemployment.

But because the countries laws benefit the excessively rich, and the poor peoples' hard work to make the rich richer, means that these people have 0 protections whatsoever.

They are the second lowest economic class, the "can't even get W2 work". The lowest is 'homeless', who are already considered thrown away, societally speaking.



It is what it is. They know that going in and it's what they signed up for.

The deactivation is a different story, however.



I'm sure they'd like to sign up for something else. It's not some free marketplace of employers. The deals are shit all around.


There are lots of people that enjoy the 'gig' jobs because of the freedom to work (or not) whenever they want.



It's not worth it. The insurance you want to provide is not sustainable. Or if you think it is the make the company and compete. The other option are these dealers shutting down and now no one has a source of income.


> An Uber spokeswoman said Mr. McDougall and Mr. Calnan “were initially flagged for fraud after a pattern of unusual behavior and their access was removed. After reviewing again, we decided they’re eligible for reactivation.”

Only after a NYT reporter started poking around, of course. How many others don’t have that going for them?





Tying "your account has been suspended for violating our TOS" to employment is a nightmare.


Having TOS for people that do your work sounds illegal. It's amazing it's not.






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