DolphinGemma: How Google AI is helping decode dolphin communication

sarreph · 2025-04-14T15:53:53 1744646033

I’m pretty sure by the time we decode what they’re saying it’ll be “so long, and thanks for all the fish”

nikolayasdf123 · 2025-04-14T15:54:29 1744646069

so, did it work?... anyone knows what is the result of this work?

srean · 2025-04-14T15:46:27 1744645587

Can a powerful model become a fantastic autocomplete for dolphins ? Sure. Someday soon that's very likely to happen. But that alone would tell us almost nothing of what dolphin dialogue means.

To understand their language we need shared experiences, shared emotions, common internal worlds. Observation of dolphin-dolphin interaction would help but to a limited degree.

It would help if the dolphins are also interested in teaching us. Dolphins or we could say to the other '... that is how we pronounce sea-cucumber'. Shared nouns would be the easiest.

The next level, a far harder level, would be to reach the stage where we can say 'the emotion that you are feeling now, that we call "anger"'.

Teaching or learning 'ennui' and 'schadenfreude' would be a whole lot harder.

This begs a question can one fully feel and understand an emotion we do not have a word for ? Perhaps Wittgenstein has an answer.

ruthvik947 · 2025-04-14T15:55:51 1744646151

Indeed! As Witt once said, "if a lion could speak, we would not understand it." (https://iep.utm.edu/wittgens/#H5)

weard_beard · 2025-04-14T15:59:58 1744646398

I think you are describing more of an edge case than you might think for a vertebrate, mammal, social, warm blooded, air breathing, earth living, pack hunter.

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