I talked to JP about this project. He's excited in a way that's hard not to catch. His core thesis is simple: coding agents are the future, and the winners will be the ones who can execute.

It won’t be OpenAI or Claude. They have other priorities. The real opportunity is for small teams who move fast, stay close to users, and keep ahead of the pack.

That makes sense. LLMs are already powerful, almost magical at times. But using them as coding agents still takes real work. They can do amazing things, and be frustrating and make a mess. There are rough edges and big gaps.

Those will get fixed. The question is who gets there first.

The counterpoint to that would be that all these tools are gonna end up sort of the same and there won't be a way to differentiate.

Which way will it play out? I'm not really sure.

You're too kind!! The speedrun ethos has already been super fun with this team. :)

I hope that we'll also be able to bring enough skills, strategy, and taste to the space. Time will tell, but we're giving it our best shot!

>This success taught me an important lesson: an extremely fast-moving community can achieve incredible things

what a trite observation

And yet few do it!

I usually support everything but isn't this literally just "we are trying to fork roo code and pay $15 of your tokens so we can show VCs that we have users" - as in people like free money. But that wouldn't be enough of a bribe to justify using the fork over the real project for me at least

Our backers have no interest in fake metrics. ;) It's a good way to quickly get feedback, which is key to our strategy. Totally fine to keep using Roo Code (or Cline) of course!

$15 worth of Claude 3.7 tokens? Does this translate to 3 “hello world” files?

What is so problematic now about Silicon Valley is that the true lesson of hackers have been completely lost.

The primary purpose of the hacker mindset was protection against groupthink and cargo culting. And now it seems all people in tech only cargo cult and only groupthink.

That ship sailed the moment the super-individualist hacker turned into the 10x programmer.

Interesting, white men doing tools to generate "kilo code" for other white men, creating and throwing-away code at a whim, meanwhile generating tons of CO2 they don't care about

Of course not a single woman or diversified person in the team, although they mean that it's a tools for everyone (yet only taking their own white men perspective of "we can burn CO2 and do useless stuff for fun, we'll never suffer the consequence of our actions, lol")

The equivalent of "Wish" for code and for the planet

Great job