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| "Conversely, thermionic tubes for a hot environment could be built without heating filaments. If the ambient temperature is 500°..."
There's a lot of physics and engineering behind thermionic emission in a typical vacuum tube and the subject shouldn't be overlooked just because tubes are less commonplace than they once were. Until the transistor became popular in the latter half of the 20th C. essentially all of electronics relied upon thermionic emission so much effort went into understanding it. Moreover, it's still very important in specialized areas such as in scientific instruments, high power transmitting tubes, TWTs (Traveling Wave Tubes), CRTs, etc. Thermionic emission obeys Richardson's Law—after physicist Owen Richardson who received the Nobel Prize for his work in 1928, and its study is an essential part of thermodynamics: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermionic_emission. When I was learning about this stuff I had a little book titled Thermionic vacuum tubes and their applications by Sir Edward Appleton (who is more famous for his wartime research into radar). Still, for anyone who's interested in thermionic emission then this could be a useful reference. I'd add that when it comes to practical methods of manufacturing thermionic cathodes, info on low work function oxide emitters etc. then there are references that are better or more practically orientated (but offhand I cannot remember the names of any). |
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| Silicone is a rubber made to make good kitchen utensils. The crummy plastic ones tend to be nylon or the like. Biggest tell is that silicone does not melt. |
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| Take heart, you're not alone, my WP's speller has automatically corrected to 'silicone' on more than one occasion and I've not noticed the embarrassing mistake. ;-) |
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| It's not easy. I missed once but struck gold the second time. I'm sorry you haven't felt supported. It's really hard when you don't feel like you can just be yourself. |
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| This guy is the right kind of crazy. This is truly what the internet was made for: sharing our outlandish, over-the-top projects with others. Awesome writeup! |
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Something I’ve been curious about: is the current actually required for the thermionic effect, or just the heat? Could you lower the current requirement by thermally insulating the tubes? |
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| "They could've done 10 tubes in series at a reasonably safe 60 VDC, and they'd only need 20 amps."
Thermionic vacuum tubes of this type usually have a specified maximum heater/cathode voltage rating which varies considerably according to design. Exceeding that rating and one risks a short between the heater and cathode. For these types of tubes heaters can safely operate up to 200V negative with respect to the cathode and about 100V positive. In my post I suggested substituting a tube that's more common in the West—the 12AT7, it has the advantage of having a 'tapped' heater which means it can be wired in parallel mode to operate at 6.3V or in series mode at 12.6V. At 12.6V the current would be halved: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12AT7 (pins 4 and 5, the tap on pin 9). |
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| "We quickly discovered, devils that we were, that if you stuck a simple diode with a 1.5 V heater in the tester and cranked the voltage to max it would launch like a little rocket."
Where I once worked we had several AVO Mk III valve testers† which we used in a nice little "demo" (for want of a better word) for both new employees and non-electronics types who'd occasionally wander into the engineering/electronics department. We'd take a 7 or 9-pin miniature valve (preferability 9-pin) and place it under water and break the evacuating seal on its top, being evacuated the valve would instantly fill with water. Now with suitable settings on the AVO we'd get the water to boil with steam bubbling out of its top. This all happened whilst we nonchalantly went about our business pretending that nothing unusual was happening. Sometimes the reaction from the newcomers/visitors was so funny that those of us who couldn't keep a straight face would quickly exit the lab and burst into hysterical laughter. That was party trick number one, there were more: half fill a CRT with water by the same process and put it back into the monitor for some poor unsuspecting tech to discover. Another was our famous CO2-powered valve gun which we'd use to shoot 7-pin and 9-pin valves at high speed across the carpark aimed at the door of the electricians' department with whom we were continually at war. The valves would embed themselves in the wooden door up to the full length of their pins and rarely would the glass break. Electricians would come in next morning to find our little gifts awaiting them. Yet another was the exploding electrolytic capacitor under one's seat. And there are many more to tell. Believe it or not, we were quite a professional outfit and our work output was excellent. But it was the funniest and most enjoyable place I've ever worked at. † https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/avo_valve_tester_mk3_mk_3.html |
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| The directly-heated cathode (meaning that the heater is the cathode) tubes have another advantage: they are nearly instant turn-on, no warm-up needed. Same as vacuum fluorescent displays.
Reminds me: there are new tubes based on VFD: https://www.korgnutube.com/en (only 12mW heater power) Very old 1920s tubes also used direct cathodes (but used a huge amount of heater power). If you look at the circuits, they had to jump through hoops to have the desired grid to cathode bias while at the same time providing the heater current. I think this would be easier for logic gates: set all of them to ground. |
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| There are tubes made which share one heater. For an exotic example with a working web page, see this tube where two triodes and one pentode share the same one heater filament.
https://vinylsavor.blogspot.com/2021/11/tube-of-month-6bh11.... This one has two diodes and two triodes. https://vinylsavor.blogspot.com/search/label/6AY11 And in this very design, they chose "6N3P valve contains 2 triodes around a single heater, halving the physical size and power requirements." There may have been tubes made where the triode function can be pretty rough (sufficient for a digital circuit) and several of them could share one enclosure. In the tubes shown above, apparently the limit was the number of pins on the socket - but also that all these active elements do not share any pin. Insulating the whole thing would run into issues like burning wire insulation. |
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| Perhaps the inside of the tube could be coated with a thin layer of gold using evaporative deposition before the grid/plate/filament/etc is added, like on spacesuit visors for IR reflection. |
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| I was really hoping to see a picture of it in dim light with the valves glowing. Also I was not expecting to see such an adorable light house for ducks in the post. All around a great read :) |
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| What a fascinating project. So cool
Thank you for making it happen and sharing it here Super interesting read and very inspiring too |
It wasn't until working with valve hardware that I finally grokked the original difference between a cold boot and a warm one.