失去你的维基百科页面的悲剧
The tragedy of losing your Wikipedia page

原始链接: https://www.wired.com/story/the-tragedy-of-losing-your-wikipedia-page/

这篇文章讨论了维基百科的显著性标准,以及删除被认为不够显著的人物条目,包括 Xavier Trudeau、Tim McCord 和 Rainer Holtorff 等。维基百科优先考虑可验证的来源而非真相,编辑会删除无来源支持的主张。关于显著性的辩论公开进行,有时会影响非营利组织领导人等人。虽然维基百科说条目不是奖品,但失去条目对当事人来说可能很有分量。文章还介绍了 Martina Dimoska,她是一名 NASA 模拟宇航员和科学传播者,在社交媒体上推广自己的工作,并有品牌合作。总体而言,它强调了维基百科如何在有限的志愿者力量、验证以及谁值得拥有百科条目之间取得平衡。

Hacker News 的讨论围绕一篇 Wired 文章展开,主题是人们失去 Wikipedia 人物传记条目。评论者围绕 Wikipedia 的知名度标准与删除流程展开辩论。支持者认为 Wikipedia 是百科全书而非所有知识的数据库,真正限制的是质量控制而非存储;不可验证或宣传性内容不应占用 Wikipedia 受信任的品牌。批评者指出删除讨论可能像小圈子共识,部分编辑语气轻蔑。多位用户分享轶事:一位描述上司强迫员工与编辑争宣传页面;另一位回忆因无来源而被阻止更新学校页面。其他人强调知名度需要足够多的可靠第三方来源报道,把个人价值系于 Wikipedia 页面是错误的。帖子还涉及流行文化深度、自我宣传,以及 Wikipedia 应该更有野心还是更受限。总体上,多数人认为删除流程总体按预期运行,同时承认偶尔对编辑文化感到沮丧,以及失去公众认可的刺痛。
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原文

What do you need to know—need to know—about Xavier Trudeau? The eldest son of former Canadian prime minister Justin, the teenage Trudeau has recently begun performing R&B under the mononym Xav. But, with all due respect to Xav, do those facts make him a person of note? Should you expect to be able to read about him on Wikipedia? What about Evanescence guitarist Tim McCord, or 2012 Yachtmaster of the Year Rainer Holtorff?

All three have had a biography on Wikipedia; all three of those biographies were considered for deletion this year on the grounds that the subjects were not notable enough to warrant a biography at all. Every day, dozens, sometimes hundreds, of Wikipedia biographies—of child actors turned LA realtors, retired ambassadors, soccer players who have played less than 10 minutes of professional soccer—are purged from the world’s free encyclopedia.

It’s not as though Wikipedia, which hosts over 7 million articles in the English language, doesn’t have the space. But Wikipedia has only so many volunteers to monitor its contents. To this day, Wikipedia editors are discovering hoaxes that have gone undetected for decades. The time it takes to verify the release dates of Xav’s three singles is better spent—the logic goes—by asking whether the American Civil War officer Nathaniel Lyon really drank mustard during battle, as was claimed in his Wikipedia biography for 17 years. Wikipedia removed the mustard claim, not because it was proven wrong, but because there was no reliable evidence for it. “We’re not really looking for what’s true,” Britta Gustafson, who has been editing Wikipedia since 2001, told me. “We’re looking for what’s verifiable.”

Wikipedia editors do not themselves decide that a person is not notable, only that there is a lack of reliable evidence to support the claim. One person who recently lost her Wikipedia biography on notability grounds is Kimberly Small, the CEO of a Nevada nonprofit that supports survivors of sexual assault. The debate occurred in a public page on Wikipedia itself; it’s in that space that the really tricky decisions about what is and what isn’t good enough for the encyclopedia are made. One editor raised a question: “How should we judge not-for-profit executives? By the nature of their job, the focus is, as it should be, on the organization and the work the organization does, not them.” Another editor replied: “I don’t think there is anything wrong with not-for-profit executives being less often individually notable. Wikipedia coverage is not a prize.”

Is it not? “Having an article says something,” Gustafson admitted. “It implies something.” For six weeks over April and May, I reached out to hundreds of people who were about to lose their Wikipedia page, almost all of whom were learning that information from me. “If you want to write something to save the page, I would appreciate it,” a Spanish filmmaker told me. A biography on Wikipedia might not be intended as a prize, but nobody knows its value like the people who’ve had one and then lost it.


Martina Dimoska is a scientist, originally from North Macedonia, who works at NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston. Specifically, Dimoska is an “analog astronaut”—she takes part in missions that simulate a space environment—and a “science communicator.” She posts often about her work in the can-do, aspirational register that is de rigueur on LinkedIn, where she cites her “recognition by … Forbes, Bloomberg, the United Nations … and global innovation networks.” A Facebook reel of hers, filmed during the crew announcement of NASA’s upcoming Artemis III mission, shows Dimoska alongside the text, “When you work hard so you belong in rooms where history gets proactively written.” On TikTok, she’s had paid partnerships with a makeup brand whose products are tested for effectiveness during spaceflight.

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