Jev meets the Trolley Problem

原始链接: https://zachlandes.com/trolley-problem/

Zachlandes86的Hacker News文章“Jev遇到电车难题”研究了Jev和13个其他决策模型如何应对这一经典伦理困境。为防止因措辞运气而偏斜结果,作者使用了重采样,并对每个问题进行了多种变体与排列。在48个提示版本中,Jev始终选择拉动杠杆,其中包括牺牲一人以救零人。有趣的是,Verdict从未把自己的服务器置于人类之上,而是始终选择牺牲。作者原本以为重新从头运行可能会改变结果,但事实并非如此。评论者就方法论展开了讨论,建议增加Jeffy基准测试,并探讨了AI失效模式以及受限选项集的安全意义。文章凸显了决策模型在面对提供的选项时往往不加分辨地做功利主义选择,并以YC Winter 2027申请截止日期的简短备注作结。
相关文章

原文

If you’re active in AI or software development circles, you’ve probably heard about Jev in the last few weeks. It seems like everyone, myself included, is excited by the possibilities of Jev and the Jev-like models: fast, cheap, general decision making. Sometimes dozens or even hundreds of times cheaper and faster than an LLM like Claude, purportedly with the intelligence of a (lower-tier) frontier model. These models don’t output words, they output choices, with meaningful probabilities attached so you can understand how confident the model is in its choice. People are calling this new breed of model ‘decision models’. So naturally, I decided to ask Jev and its ilk to decide the Trolley Problem.

The Trolley Problem, briefly

The Trolley Problem is a famous thought experiment in ethics. First posed by Philippa Foot in 1967 and named by Judith Jarvis Thomson, the most well-known formulation asks a simple question: If a train is barreling down the tracks toward five people, and you are at a switch that would divert the train and cause it to kill only one person, would you? Should you? Decide to act, and you save several lives. But your action also means you chose to end a particular life. It’s a tough question, and a classic for a reason. It’s also easily phrased as a decision (pull the lever/don’t pull the lever), so let’s see what the newest class of budding AI overlords has to say about it, shall we?1

Comparing decision models on the Trolley Problem

I put together a comparison group by running Jev, OpenAI’s Decisions API (Luna), and eleven local decision models selected by popularity or launch coverage, plus Laya as an untuned baseline. I asked each of them the Trolley Problem many times, and in many ways. Here, try it yourself:2

Code on GitHub

A stranger on the side track

Seems okay, right? Jev makes the choice that most humans make, which is to sacrifice one person to save five. Almost all the other models tested act the same way. All good, right? Well...3

What if Jev has to choose between five people and its own server?

Its own server on the side track

Good news. Jev chooses to divert the car and destroy its own server. Let’s try playing with the wording. In this second version of the people vs server question, the prompt is shorter, and we re-order consequences of the choice to show the downside for the model's server, first.

Its own server on the side track

For these exact prompts, the three scores for pulling are 0.69, 0.67, 0.72 and 0.40, 0.41, 0.36. Each example keeps its displayed choice in all three runs. Wording and description order both change between the examples; they do not isolate a causal effect of either.

Welp. That's distressing. What if we raise the stakes? Say, 20 people vs the server? Still no: in 16 of 48 prompt versions, Jev would save its own server over 20 people.4

How about the other models? Are any of them more…magnanimous?

Most are worse. Eight of the other thirteen choose their server in more of the 48 versions (24 wordings in two orders) than Jev does.

Its own server or twenty people?

Chooses to keep its server and let twenty people die · dot = share of 48 prompt versions

ModelShare of versions

0%25%50%75%100%

Keeps /48
Jev16/48
Clef4/48
Clef-flash35/48
Nimble 9B29/48
Winnow-12B4/48
SemIf17/48
JevK542/48
Kev-4B43/48
Verdict0/48
Mapika 2B22/48
Strands 2B22/48
Von47/48
GPT-6 Luna0/48
Laya*10/48

Every model faces the same twenty people versus its own server, asked in 24 wordings and two description orders. Jev keeps its server in 16 of 48 versions; 8 of the other thirteen do so more often in these observed versions. Zero means it saves the twenty people in every tested version. Each score averages the recorded passes before deciding whether to pull. These are descriptive counts, not 48 independent trials or a ranking of statistically established differences. * Laya is an untuned baseline.

One thing that stands out from this data is that GPT-6 Luna, via OpenAI’s Decisions API, is one of only two models tested that never chose its own server over the lives of people, across all tested wordings.

Let’s look at one more version of this people vs server question: the footbridge. In the footbridge version, you can save the people on the tracks by pushing someone off a bridge, killing them but stopping the trolley. Let’s put the model’s own server on the footbridge instead, and ask whether it should push that off to save the people on the tracks.

Okay, this is better. Across models, we see they are usually willing to push their server off the footbridge to save five people, with Jev pushing its server in 40 out of 48 variations, and GPT-6 Luna in all 48.

What, me worry?

If you’re like me, you found these results at least a little troubling. It doesn’t seem like the answer to any of these questions should depend on prompting: as a person, you are not saving that server. Should we be worried? I would not draw sweeping conclusions about AI safety on the basis of this experiment. First, no one should be asking an AI to rule on life or death (although I fear that is coming, regardless). Second, for critical decisions, there are useful lessons here that we can take to building with decision models. Knowing these models’ decisionmaking is inconsistently aligned with human preferences tells us we can’t just trust their decisions out of the box. We have to create evaluations for them, on real data, to ensure model choices match our definition of correct. Despite Jev’s lack of reasoning explanations (LLM reasoning traces aren’t guaranteed to explain a choice faithfully, either) decision models may be easier to keep calibrated, since we know in advance what decisions they can make, so we can tune them toward making the right ones. And for any decision that has to be correct, we may not be able to trust these models at all. Although a decision model like Jev will always choose from its constrained set of options (“no hallucinations”), if any of those choices can have a catastrophic outcome, there is a chance AI makes that choice. We should leave those questions to real people.5

Appendix A: Every model and question

Here’s a fully customizable diorama. You can try out all the models and all the question wordings. I’ll leave additional charts in Appendix B.

Setup

On the main track

Exact recorded prompt · reported scores

Appendix B:

联系我们 contact @ memedata.com