我们想要的是拥有太空时代工具的狩猎采集生活。
What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools

原始链接: https://www.strangeloopcanon.com/p/what-we-want-is-a-hunter-gatherer

现代社会的本质,在于我们对简约过往那种亲密感的渴望,与维持全球人口所需的工业复杂性之间存在着张力。从医疗到就业,那些本应提供服务的科层制和条文规则系统,以非人化的标准化流程取代了个人能动性,令我们感到疏离。这种普遍的挫败感催生了一种怀旧情绪,渴望“回归”到前工业时代的狩猎采集理想生活,那时的一切似乎都可控且富有意义。 然而,作者认为时光倒流既不可能,也没有必要。我们无法抛弃支撑现代生活水平的庞大集体结构。相反,真正的前进方向是调和这两种状态。我们必须停止将现代工业系统视为不可改变的法则,而应将其视为可以改进的工具。通过利用我们对人类行为和社区不断演进的认知,我们可以将“村庄”的个性与宗旨注入“摩天大楼”,从而使机构更加人性化。所谓“真正的回归”,并非向过去退缩,而是通过我们从当下的挣扎中获得的洞见,去构建一个既兼顾系统规模又具备个人意义的未来。

这个 Hacker News 讨论帖探讨了将“狩猎采集生活方式”与现代技术相结合的愿望。批评者认为,这种愿景是一种浪漫化的幻想,忽视了前工业时代劳动极其艰辛的现实,以及现代供应链的极端复杂性——这些供应链无法被缩减为“桌面级”制造。 这场辩论突显了几个关键的矛盾: * **可持续性与舒适度:** 虽然一些参与者向往小型、与自然融合的部落所带来的社区感与自主权,但另一些人指出,现代城市尽管存在疏离感,却提供了医疗、安全和专业化分工的基础设施,从而促进了人类的繁荣。 * **独立性与相互依赖:** 评论者指出,现代社会的“自给自足”往往依赖于它试图逃避的工业体系。如果不牺牲现代材料和医药带来的益处,真正的自给自足很难实现规模化。 * **社会属性:** 许多参与者指出,虽然人类可能并非“天生”适应匿名的超大型城市,但现代社会提供了在更大的结构中建立局部社区的方式。 最终,共识倾向于认为:尽管人们可能渴望更简单时代的社会联系与自然连接,但很少有人愿意放弃现代世界切实的舒适感和救命技术。
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Those who are convinced that there is more to things spend their time chasing it and not finding it often as not, and those who are convinced there isn't find themselves frustrated at the abyss.

When you read books about a utopia without material demands on our time, the key aspect seems to be how nobody is particularly bereft, only mildly discontent. The utopia we envision in other words comprises our current world, just shorn of what we’d recognise as work.

But its more than that. Most of the annoyances with the modern world, especially in the more talkative online spheres, seems to stem from its seemingly inadequate efforts to affect the outcomes of us especially as our institutions are growing so much bigger than we can control.

When we look at the degrowth agendas that proliferate, they too seem to be nostalgic for a very specific version of the past. The visions are filled with communities of mutually loving people, the elimination of middlemen from transactions, where everyone knows the true you, the nonexistence of bureaucracy, the existence of a social good that’s identifiable by looking around. Essentially, the simple life.

Instead today we’re surrounded by alien structures, built by people we don’t know, working alongside those with whom you have a passing ephemeral relationship at best, stuck with an expertise that has little to do with savannah survival, doing a portion of a portion of a portion of the work to move the big wheel, detached from your relationships because of time constraints, and generally feeling as if you’re too smart to not notice an abyss but too stupid to find a way to cross it.

So we try to find our way to make peace with the things we had to do to get those space age tools, even as we dislike what we had to do to get them.

  • We tried schooling people individually, sometimes collectively, occasionally communally, but had to resort to more industrialised methods as the numbers got larger. And in this expansion we also started disliking the fact that industrialised methods take away the individuality.

  • We tried jobs out by apprenticeships, by walking into offices and finding your vocation, by starting working somewhere and proving your mettle, but as the numbers grew large enough we started to realise that maybe we needed better methods of selection, credentialling, and hoops to jump through.

  • We tried governing through simple rules applied semi illegibly, which over time had to get more codified and better elaborated as societies themselves grew larger and more complex in their component activities; and the fight between wanton lawsuits and deterrence led us to the point where we need to elaborate exact instructions of how a child shouldn’t eat a plastic bag atop a sweet box.

  • We tried curing diseases based on the patient and the background and the symptoms and the disease patterns themselves, to the point where with the large influx of patients necessitated rule based systems (spend only 15 mins with the patient, only do a blood test if they demonstrate specific symptoms) which make it worthless unless you’re at the middle of a (supposedly extant) bell curve.

This is why we dislike rules so much. This is why we want to RETVRN.

Because we don’t want a life filled with rules and structures and globally defined procedural rules. We want to live in a hunter gatherer mode where we get to follow our curiosities and our ambitions and our vibes and our likes until it reaches the natural conclusion. Never mind perhaps that this might not exactly depict the way the hunter gatherers themselves lived, the point of the space age toolkit we have is to live as if that was the lifestyle.

But now that we’ve grown up a bit maybe we can treat some of those rules as the necessary evil that they are, not as immutable facts of the world. We can treat personalisation as a feature and not an affront. We can treat rules as suggestions of the right average behaviour and Schelling points and not as laws like gravity.

To return to that (maybe imagined) idyllic state isn’t a function of reversing time. We don’t need to give up everything we made in order to retvrn. We need to move forward with the new insight that what we created helps us understand a little bit more about what we might want, and use that knowledge to guide our next steps.

Whether its our increasing understanding of how tribes form, online and offline, or our affectations about how life should be lived, or the level of influence we want or tolerate from others in our society, or indeed what we owe to one another, these are to be answered moving forward.

Whichever vision of the past glory that you’re most partial to, it stems from the yearning for a time when life used to be understandable, when proving oneself wasn’t a constant struggle, when you could just do the thing instead of proving you can do the thing, when the egregore of our society wasn’t turned into the mechanistic mode of analysing our aptitudes, in short when things were more personal.

We won’t live in small villages with cobbled streets en masse anymore because we need the giant glass skyscrapers and the congealed intellect of our multi billion population to move ahead, but that doesn’t mean we can’t recreate what made those cobbled streets seem interesting in the first place. That’s the true retvrn.

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