AI 就像互联网泡沫一样,是一个泡沫。
AI is a bubble, just like dot-com

原始链接: https://www.constraintlab.com/blog/ai-is-a-bubble-just-like-dot-com.html

当前的AI格局呈现出尖锐的分歧:一方将其视为革命性的“新范式”,另一方则担忧人类主体性和认知能力的丧失。作者认为,不应简单地将其中一方斥为幻觉,正如互联网时代既有Pets.com的倒闭,也有亚马逊的崛起,当下的AI热潮中既包含不可持续的炒作,也蕴含着真正的转型。 核心挑战已不再仅仅是模型能力的问题,而是我们工作方式的根本性转变。随着AI接管编程和各项任务,曾经通过实践所获得的“理解的副产品”正在消失。团队被迫在没有明确指引的情况下,实时重新定义代码审查和交付协议等专业标准。 作者认为,AI模型不会进化到完美地替我们解决这些困境。我们必须超越“惊叹或恐惧”的层面,批判性地评估这项技术究竟能实现什么。本系列文章旨在摒弃情绪与炒作,寻求对AI实际效用的细致理解,帮助读者清晰地应对这一转型。

这段 Hacker News 讨论探讨了当前的 AI 热潮是否是堪比 20 世纪 90 年代互联网泡沫的“泡沫”。参与者们争论着巨额估值和投机性投资究竟预示着不可避免的崩盘,还是一种能够经受市场调整的变革性转变。 核心观点包括: * **定义泡沫:** 许多评论者认为,被定性为“泡沫”并不意味着 AI 没有用处,而是指当前的市场估值脱离了即时的盈利能力。 * **“AI 垃圾内容”(Slop)问题:** 讨论中很大一部分内容在批评该博客文章的写作风格,将其贴上“AI 垃圾内容”的标签。批评者认为,大语言模型生成的文本显得过于刻意、重复,且缺乏真实的人类“印记”,这导致了不信任感。 * **创新与投机:** 虽然有些人认为 AI 是一条无法证明其高昂成本合理性的技术死胡同,但另一些人则认为 AI 已经拥有了早期互联网所缺乏的大规模普及基础,这表明它是一项基础性技术,而非昙花一现的潮流。 归根结底,这篇讨论反映了一个两极分化的社区,他们正试图在 AI 工具的实际效用,与由 AI 生成内容带来的挫败感,以及动荡投机市场的不确定性之间寻求平衡。
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原文

Andrej Karpathy has written large language models the way most of us have written CRUD apps. He was a founding member of OpenAI, ran AI at Tesla, and joined Anthropic this spring to train Claude. He wrote nanoGPT and llm.c, the small readable codebases people use to learn how a language model works end to end.

When Anthropic put Claude inside Slack, he called it “a new paradigm” — the third major redesign of how humans use these systems. Not a website you visit anymore, not an app you install, but “a self-contained, persistent, asynchronous entity with org-wide tools and context, working alongside teams of humans.”

He closed with: “it works and it is awesome.”

The replies had a different read. One of them, in full:

Hold that exchange still for a second. Nobody in it is stupid. That’s what makes it worth understanding.

The same split runs through everything right now, and nothing around it holds still.

Leadership says “use more AI,” and never defines responsible use. Engineers hear it through an older instinct: don’t ship what you don’t understand. Nobody explains how both survive.

Layoff announcements credit AI in the same breath as the earnings beat. A colder fear sits underneath: people who own the AI on one side, people whose work it does on the other, no visible way across.

The ground keeps moving. Prompt engineering was a job title. OpenClaw picked up a hundred thousand GitHub stars and caused a Mac Mini shortage in the same week. Ralph was the future for about a weekend. Context engineering, then harness engineering, then graph engineering. Each was the obvious way to work, right up until the next one was. The gaps keep getting shorter.

And everywhere, teams ship code faster than they can understand it. Ask whoever’s on call.

I’d love to stand cleanly on one side of all this. I can’t. I haven’t written a line of code in about a year. Claude writes it all. These posts too. I read all the code before it ships, and I still feel the difference. Understanding used to be a byproduct of writing the code myself. Now understanding is a separate job.

Both perspectives, one person.

There’s a default way to resolve contradictions like these: decide who’s deluded. “I miss the old andrej” does it in five words: if Karpathy calls a Slack bot a paradigm, something must have happened to Karpathy. Sorting people into right and wrong passes for rigor. It assumes that when two perspectives contradict, one of them must be false.

Our industry tested that assumption once before, at scale.

In March 2000 the NASDAQ peaked above 5,000. By October 2002 it had lost 78 percent of its value. Pets.com IPO’d in February and was gone by November. The sock puppet outlived the company. Betting against it was exactly right.

Amazon lost more than 90 percent of its stock price in the same crash and kept shipping. Within a decade the internet had rearranged retail, news, music, and how you found a job. Betting on Amazon was exactly right too.

Same year. Same technology. “Wildly overhyped” and “changes everything” were both correct at the extreme.

Nobody had to be deluded.

And there were four ways to stand, not two. Short everything: it’s all a bubble. Long everything: it’s all the future. Long Pets.com, short Amazon: backwards twice. Long Amazon, short Pets.com: right twice. The first two are moods about a technology. The last two are judgments about cases. The only thing separating right twice from backwards twice was understanding.

None of it was magic. The information separating a Pets.com from an Amazon was public the whole time. The hard part was knowing what question to ask of it. What could the internet do that nothing before it could? A bookstore with every book in print, yes. Free shipping on forty-pound bags of dog food, no. Most people, watching the same screens, never asked. They picked a mood and waited for the grade.

We’re inside the next one now. That may be the only point the amazed and the unimpressed already agree on: whatever this is, it’s big.

Transformational technology comes along maybe twice in a working life. I was in school for the last one, watching different screens: South Park, Perfect Dark, Conker’s Bad Fur Day. This time I want to understand it while it’s moving: test hypotheses against what happens, and decide how I work while the decision still matters.

You’re inside it too. Your feed has already assigned you a position: be amazed, or be afraid. Both are moods. Understanding isn’t assigned. You have to go get it.

So start where understanding starts. What is the disagreement about?

Mostly not models. There are arguments over which model is best, and over whether open weights beat closed ones. They stay small and almost polite. The real fights are somewhere else. Do you read every line the model writes? Can you ship code you don’t understand? Do passing tests mean it works? Does an AI review count as a review? Every team I know is re-deciding these rules on the fly. Some decide with conviction. More sound like: we don’t know what to do, but we’d better do something.

Model quality enters at one point only: “the models will get so good that none of this will matter.”

Maybe.

So here’s my first hypothesis, stated so you can hold me to it. Models will not become dependable enough, soon enough, to settle these questions for us. If you’re sure that’s wrong, sure that near-flawless output arrives in a year or two, you can stop reading. The questions will answer themselves, and this series with them. I don’t think that’s where we are.

Now set the pieces next to each other. Intelligent people look at one technology and see wildly different things. History says conclusions that far apart can both be correct. And the rule debates run on, team after team, without resolving. Arguments that run this long between capable people are built on assumptions nobody has checked. We’ve already seen one: somebody has to be wrong. The rule debates lean on another that nobody has said out loud. Behind that one is the question that sorted Amazon from Pets.com, aimed at our own work this time.

What did this enable that we couldn’t do before?

Each of those rule debates assumes an answer to it. That’s the question this series works out. One small, checkable step at a time. I’m writing to answer it for myself. You’re welcome to come along and check the work. By the end you won’t need my conclusions. You’ll have your own read on any AI claim that crosses your feed.

Including this one: AI is a bubble, just like dot-com.


Thanks to Emma Bukacek and Tim Pote, who read early drafts and told me what wasn’t working.

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